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myurbandream ([personal profile] myurbandream) wrote2012-11-05 07:04 pm
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remember, remember the fifth of november/ the gunpowder treason and plot...

Happy Guy Fawkes Day!!! I hope everyone is watching V for Vendetta tonight...

[identity profile] zaphod-groupie.livejournal.com 2012-11-06 02:37 pm (UTC)(link)
In fairness, most holidays get movies : P

And I agree that freedom, liberty and justice are all great ideals....which are all, in my opinion, completely at odds with religiously justified assassination attempts. The movie V for Vendetta is, in a vacuum, not bad, but it so wildly diverges from the graphic novel and has no basis in reality that I kinda hate that it makes everyone go "yay Guy Fawkes!!". The character V is not and should not be mistaken for Guy Fawkes.. Full stop. Bonfire night is about celebrating the failure of a treasonous attempt on the lives of King James and parliament, not celebrating alliteration and civil disobedience.

[identity profile] jen-chan13.livejournal.com 2012-11-06 03:09 pm (UTC)(link)
okay, you make some good points there, i don't personally disagree with anything you said.

but i'm being waaaay more shallow about this. :D

idk about the novel, but i think the movie has a good message about standing up for the ideals that our governments profess to serve, and about our rights and freedoms as citizens, and i would enjoy watching it any day of the year. the only reason i particularly enjoy watching it on Nov 5th is because the movie itself makes a big deal out of that day. i know the holiday is about burning guy fawkes in effigy etc etc, and i'm not confusing him with a national hero. i'm not condoning terrorism or assassinations or (god forbid) the blowing up of national monuments or really awesome buildings. i'm not saying either guy fawkes or v are people we should emulate. i'm just saying it's a kick-ass movie with a good underlying philosophical message. regardless of the original context of the holiday, i really just like the symmetry of watching it on Guy Fawkes Night.

that is all.

[identity profile] zaphod-groupie.livejournal.com 2012-11-06 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, you're intelligent enough for it to not be a problem, it's the rest of the population I'm worried about : P